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Terrific interview! I loved the unraveling of the myth that genuine ambition necessarily comes with intense personal suffering. I also appreciated Gena's idea that we don't have to fret about fixing all our shortcomings, perceived or real. My favorite takeaway (among many) is about honoring "the genuine ambitiousness needed to build your own flourishing, fully lived life." Thank you for this rich, thought-provoking conversation!

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